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INVESTIGATION OF ACCESS TO PUBLIC SERVICES IN SCOTLAND USING BRITISH SIGN LANGUAGE

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Chapter five: Experience of access and use of BSL

5.1 In this section we consider in more detail, the accounts that Deaf people gave of their interaction with hearing people.

Reactions when alone

5.2 It is common for Deaf people to read the body language of other people. Since they would not use the voice of the person to judge their characteristics, a great deal is understood from the way the person behaves. Deaf people often believe that hearing people are indifferent or rude. However, this can also make the Deaf person feel disadvantaged.

"Usually hearing people have bad moods - I ignore them and move away." A15

5.3 In Stornoway, they suggested that the response of hearing people made them opt out.

"Really here is a quiet place with a few Deaf people…. It is true we are passive." S1

"It depends on hearing people who frown, so I say nothing - it makes me more passive." S4

5.4 The net result is that Deaf people tend to avoid those situations and often will tell other Deaf people of the problem. However, there is a risk of problems later if it is the person's own health which is at stake.

"It happened to me some time ago, when I was pregnant - I went for a check up in the hospital. I told the nurse I was deaf and her reaction was negative. So I got up and put on my clothes and walked out. I never went back until the baby was born. Lots of medical people do not sign and can't be bothered to write down." A25

5.5 This theme recurs when dealing with medical situations (which are covered in more depth below) - Deaf people have little faith in their dealings with health staff.

Taking a friend or advocate

5.6 Deaf people said frequently that they preferred not to be on their own when they met with hearing people. A great many people took friends or relations with them.

"I am an Asian woman; I don't speak English, only little English as at home, I used my home language not English with my family. When I go to council office, I never go on my own, I always go with my mother who always come with me and supported me with communication so I always rely on her as she helped me out a lot, I never do this on my own as I cannot read English but only sign in BSL." G4

5.7 People who admit to taking others with them often see the problem as their own - it is they who have poor English or who cannot cope - not the hearing service provider.

"I never do anything myself I always rely on my wife who is hearing and she does everything for me. I don't know what to do if I had to do it, I can't cope with things like that. I remember one time, I received a letter from the council but my wife wasn't here at the time, I didn't know what to do, so I had to ask my next door neighbour to read it and explain to me. I don't understand any letter that I get from my council." C61

5.8 Older Deaf people who are married to hearing people will recognise the situation above. As time goes on, the dependence becomes greater. Interestingly, he claimed that he could never understand a letter from the council. This means of communication with Deaf people is usual. Many of the respondents in the study simply could not read what was written and were unable to respond. In other situations, dependence leads to stress.

"Often I have a social worker with me but one time, when on my own, they took away my pension book, without explaining. I went home to my son and explained to him what had happened. My son had to sort it out and got my book back two weeks later." A21

5.9 In this example, the older Deaf person has his financial lifeline removed without explanation (in a form which he could understand). This practice, which might be acceptable when explained to a hearing person, turns out as seemingly quite wrong, when applied without communication.

5.10 Not surprisingly, Deaf people express the need to keep control. Many Deaf people will prepare in advance and write things down or think through exactly what is to happen. When this spins out of control because staff are uncooperative, there is a natural reaction to walk away from it and to give up. The older the person is, the more likely it is that he or she will withdraw from this type of risky situation.

Service personnel visiting the home

5.11 A basic problem in letting someone into the home is how to tell that person of the nature of the problem and how to monitor the job progress. The home needs to be protected. When a person arrives with whom the Deaf person cannot communicate, some adjustments are needed.

"Gas man came - no communication. He just came and fixed it and then went. No explanation. What if there was a risk. All services should be Deaf aware and learn BSL." A1

"Plumber kept saying OK! OK! OK! with two thumbs up but he did not give me any information about my tap problem." C58

5.12 This experience is almost universal among the Deaf community. Hearing staff from service providers have no training in communication and the most basic Deaf awareness practices are absent. Deaf people experience 'no communication' in their own homes. Deaf people then may adopt the strategy of overt monitoring of the work.

"I watched the electrician in my house. I was "nosey" but I must know what he was doing in my house. My hearing wife rings him but if she is not there, I will ask a neighbour for help because they know me very well. When any visitors come to my house I must stay in the same room with them to watch them." B31

"Usually, I stay with the person and watch to see the job being done. I need to know what is happening. Sometimes the person is not happy being watched but I tell them that I am Deaf." A9

5.13 It seems that hearing workers do not expect this close observation but Deaf people in their own home feel uncomfortable. Many Deaf people do not allow the service person to be there without having their own hearing representative in the house as well.

"Normally, I asked my parents to come and deal with it. I don't trust the person. I don't like to ask my father as I lose my independence but I feel safe with him. I would prefer a Deaf plumber or a person who can sign." A11

"Always asked my daughter to find the service people. If she is not there, I don't know what to do. I don't know what to say." C67

5.14 However, even in asking for hearing support, it is the Deaf people who feel de-skilled in their own homes. One of the Deaf people in Stornoway summed this up.

"Yes I had a faulty gas pipe. I contacted my father who called the Council emergency number. The person came and communicated with my father… I am not able to communicate on my own as my English is poor. I need to depend on my father. I wish I could deal with it but how to communicate?" S1

5.15 Typically, people want to feel in control of the situation in their own homes. It is a fundamental rule of most cultures that one should respect the person at home. When Deaf people invite hearing services into their homes, they risk the loss of control and are treated with dis-respect in regard to communication. At present, the Deaf reports indicate that this appears not to matter to the service provider because they perceive no effort being made to bring an interpreter or even to find a way to communicate. It is left to the Deaf people to make adjustments in order to protect this cultural value.

5.16 Lack of communication is perceived also to lead to wrong decisions.

"I had a problem with my boiler. I had someone come around but his attitude was poor and he advised me that I needed a new boiler. My instinct said no, I don't need one. I ignored his advice because of his attitude. I called a different company. The second person had a better attitude and was willing to write down to communicate. I felt more comfortable. He said I didn't need a new boiler. I feel it is a risk for some Deaf people who may listen to people who give them advice because hearing people are "clever"." A8

5.17 In this description, the Deaf person confirms his suspicion that hearing people are not entirely trustworthy. Although it is sometimes true that hearing people complain of poor advice and exploitation, Deaf people are particularly at risk as they seldom have other people to turn to for advice.

5.18 Deaf people are highly suspicious of any personnel coming to the house and it is important for such staff to be aware of the risks which Deaf people feel in regard to this situation.

Dealing with Doctors and Health Care

5.19 In all surveys of Deaf people, contact with the local GP and with medical services is one of the most problematic areas. Deaf people feel their personal well-being is at risk and view the communication transaction with some apprehension. However, some Deaf people reported success with the doctor.

"My GP is fine and understandable as he is my family doctor for more than 30 years. He is Deaf aware and uses gesture. No problem." A27

"My doctor can use fingerspelling. It helps better to communicate. She has really good Deaf Awareness. I am not very good at English. She wrote only simple words. Most doctors do not do that!" A23

5.20 However, these responses were very much in the minority; usually there were complaints of lack of communication and problems of attitude. Deaf people as usual partially solved the problem by taking a relative or friend but in this situation, there are major questions about privacy and independence.

"Always brought a friend with me. He knows a lot of information about me." B38

"My aunt always goes with me to the GP. I am not happy as it affects my privacy and also can affect her if anything is seriously wrong and she tells the family." A1

5.21 It is difficult to explain to hearing readers the significance of this Deaf expression ("affects my privacy"). In a hearing society, particularly in the UK, personal privacy is closely guarded. It is true that people have close friends with whom personal problems can be discussed but people expect these confidences to be respected. In any case, they have the choice to make the information available to the other person. In contrast, Deaf people receive second hand information from other people. The doctor speaks and a friend or relative passes on the information which is deemed relevant to the extent of their communication abilities - which is often not at the level of fluency in BSL. The hearing person makes the choice about which information to share with the Deaf person - about that Deaf person's well-being. When the intermediary is a family member, there is a serious dilemma about which other people might be informed. The Deaf person has no control over this - "He knows a lot of information about me" - and there is a suspicion that the person "tells the family". This creates great insecurity.

5.22 At the same time, the involvement of a family member may cause severe problems for that person.

"Writing notes does not help. I am never happy with doctors. Last year I went to hospital, my daughter helped my as interpreter. It was impossible to find a interpreter. It was a very bad experience. My doctor told me I may have cancer but it really frightened my daughter because we are in the same family it was not right. I do not have any privacy." C54

5.23 Where Deaf people reject the intermediary, they go to the doctor on their own. In this case, they have to rely on the doctor's preparedness to make adjustments in communication. In rural areas, where there are simply no alternatives, Deaf people reported being unhappy about their poor communicative contact with doctors.

"I am used to going on my own - all my life. …. Doctor would write down just one word like 'operation' or 'hospital'. I would show or point to my body where the problem is. If there is a problem with the children, my husband goes. I wouldn't want an interpreter as it is my privacy. The doctor should sign to communicate with me." c2

"I had a terrible pain here. He (doctor) told me there was nothing wrong. I went back again. Same reply. Six months later I went to see a different doctor, who took an x-ray and told me I had xx (serious problem). So I had treatment in the hospital. There should be a nurse to interpret for Deaf people - not the family." c3

5.24 This problem was possibly even more acute away from cities where there are no services at all.

"I have a friend whom I taught to sign, This friend helps me phone the doctor and sometimes comes with me. Sometimes I go on my own. It is difficult to communicate with the doctor - I have to lip-read or write down. I only get a brief response. I had an important test and waited for the result by letter - there was none. That was three years ago. Also I had another important test and I am still waiting for the result. I told them I was Deaf and unable to use the phone, so I gave them the number to fax me with the result - no response. It is so hard being Deaf with little support." d2

"It is so hard - there is no one to help with communication. It is so difficult to explain to the doctor what I want to say. It is difficult to do it by writing….. Social worker never helps in Shetland. There is a Deaf club but the social worker never comes to meet us Deaf people to see if we need anything or any help - nothing at all." d4

5.25 In the section on personnel visiting, Deaf people lose control in their own homes; here Deaf people lose control of their own bodies and their own well-being. The problems that can be caused by these circumstances are enormous. However, as before, it is the Deaf person who ends up feeling bad about the lack of information or explanation.

"..frustrated waiting in the waiting room. I often have to wait a long time as they seem to forget about me. I complained to the doctor about the lack of display system and the doctor said they had no money. Sometimes after leaving the doctor, I feel depressed and angry because I don't understand the doctor. I feel the doctor should write down all the information or have an interpreter." A25

5.26 It is quite clear that Deaf people are outsiders in health settings. It is very difficult to establish ownership of their own health information. Adjustment is seldom by the health professional and the net result is to reduce the Deaf person's self esteem. Such problems also have serious repercussions.

"The doctor explained but I did not understand. He wrote notes but I didn't understand his handwriting and jargon. I tried to explain about my baby son. I knew there was something wrong with him but he just gave me some medicine and never explained what I should do with the medicine. It really stressed me. A few weeks later, my son was really ill. The other doctor was shocked about his serious illness. I am still very angry with this." B41

5.27 In contact with health services Deaf people continuously use the terms frustration and loss of privacy. Deaf people often blame themselves for the problems with the doctor - yet the root of this must be the service provision as every Deaf person can recount a bad experience with health staff in hospitals or in a doctor's surgery. From the lack of the simplest notions of Deaf awareness (inability to tell the Deaf person it is his or her turn, other than by shouting) to the most serious insensitivity in refusing to write down or take the time to explain properly, Deaf people's experience of health care is very poor indeed.

Hearing people at work

5.28 When Deaf people work in an organisation, they seldom work in teams with other Deaf people. While councils and organisations try to increase the numbers of disabled staff, there seems to be major insensitivity to the needs of someone who does not speak. Poor interaction is commonly reported. Deaf people struggle in a larger group of hearing people especially in the work place and miss out on a whole range of information which affects social well being, as well as workplace practice. Despite the achievement of having the job, Deaf people just feel isolated. This sensation is not necessarily helped by the provision of interpreters.

"I felt left out. Most hearing people talk to each other and did not include me. I have ideas but they made me feel passive because the interpreter was interpreting what they said." A20

"Once I went to a conference - all hearing people - without an interpreter. I walked out. I told the boss I was not happy as there was no information." A9

"In my previous job (for 12 years) I had no access at meetings. They refused to provide interpreters. They said I should lip read." A13

5.29 It may be believed, in many circumstances, that providing the interpreter, immediately solves the problem of including the Deaf person, but what is apparent, is that Deaf people do not feel this. Even, effective interpreting has a time lag - the Deaf person receives the information later than everyone else and in meetings where questions are posed and answers given in a group, the Deaf person simply misses the cues to respond - because the interpreter is working behind the flow of the conversation. The first quote above suggested that Deaf people became "passive".

5.30 However, there are common situations (the second and third quotes above) where there is no interpreter and the employers somehow believe that the Deaf person can cope. Usually the Deaf person is unable to follow what is going on. Even in situations where hearing people seem to show an interest or where there is supposed to be signing by other staff, it rarely works out.

"I used to work with a small hearing group. I was involved but later the group started to grow and I no longer felt I belonged. I was never involved in any social events because of the communication problem." B46

"I was involved with a Deaf organisation group. All staff were expected to sign in front of Deaf staff but they forgot. If there were more Deaf people present, it might encourage them to sign more, not use voice." B40

5.31 The message is very clear that one to one conversations may be manageable for Deaf people but without an interpreter they will be isolated in hearing groups in any environment. Even if there is a policy to use signing, it is unusual for it to be carried through and there are no penalties for hearing staff who fail to follow the rules.

5.32 Perhaps it is easy to sum up the responses in this area with one quote.

"Before I worked for the Deaf organisation, I used to work with the hearing. I would get on with my job although there was a communication barrier. Since I have worked for the Deaf organisation, it has really opened my eyes. All the information is available, and accessible. It was a great culture shock for me. Now if I have to go back to work with hearing - no thank you. I would rather be unemployed." A8

5.33 Deaf people's experiences of the workplace when surrounded by hearing colleagues is usually one of marginalisation. When there is more than one Deaf person there is at least communication but marginalisation all the same. Only when the majority are Deaf and the practices adopted are suited to signed communication, is there comfort and involvement.

Comments on Experiences

5.34 It is hard not to present a deeply gloomy picture of the experiences which Deaf people have in their dealings with hearing people. In regard to public services, whether as a consumer or as a colleague, Deaf people report frustration, unhappiness and isolation.

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